„The Independent“: kultūros sostinė Baltijos užutėkyje

Publikuota 2009.01.29 23:56

2009-01-30 21:39:03
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Jei nepasistengi suprasti, tai nieko niekada ir nesuprasi.    ATSAKYTI
Zabediejus 2009-01-30 21:23:56
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noreciau pataisyti autoriu-Jascha Heifitz buvo ne violancelistas,o smuikininkas,patenkantis i geriausiu visu laiku smuikininku simtuka.Siaip viskas i taikini.   ATSAKYTI
fui 2009-01-30 20:53:23
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kaip gali apie tai rasyt jei nemate neu vieno kukturinio projekto? juk pati europos komisija pripazino kad VEKS programa unikali ir garsinanti visa europa. parsidaves zurnalistas..   ATSAKYTI
Česlovas 2009-01-30 20:48:13
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Labai šauniai aprašė Vilnių. Šaunu!   ATSAKYTI
JO 2009-01-30 18:55:34
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Kvailas straipsnis. O gal ir pats žurnalistas. Matomai jis ir Egipte,- šalia piramidžių,- norėtų pasivažinėti ant "amerikietiškų kalnelių"?   ATSAKYTI
1 2009-01-30 18:25:50
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Kretino paistalai. Jei jis pakliuvo ne į savo vietą, ir ne į savo miestą. O tai paties rašinėtojo bėda   ATSAKYTI
Kultūra ir rašyba 2009-01-30 16:29:14
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Man priimtiniau -užutekis, o ne užutėkis. Nes teka, o ne tėka.   ATSAKYTI
ne expertas.lt 2009-01-30 16:20:24
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cia dekokite, uz VEKS isplautus pinigelius Merkeliui, Sodeikai, Bajorinienei, Zuokui.
Kur tai matyta, kad Vilniuje nieko nevyksta, o pinigai isleisti be pateisinamu dokumentu.
Cia straipsniukas tik siaip apie "beliaka", o neuzilgo pasirodys tiriamoji zurnalistika. Va tada ir pamatysite patys kokio masto korupcija klesti Lietuvoje   ATSAKYTI
kur ziuri teisesauga? 2009-01-30 15:20:50
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ekspertai.eu savo pasieke. gerus pinigus tiems nieksams moka. butu vilnius tapes traukos centru, o dabar viska nusikalteliai suzlugde ir toliau zlugdo. kada tais tipais susidomes Prokuratura??   ATSAKYTI
kova 2009-01-30 15:12:46
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stai akivaizdus ekspertai.eu darbo vaisius.
Turime but dekingi keliems zmonems suskirsinusiems visuomene ir
paruose dirva pilimui ant musu salies purvo!
gal pagalvokime is naujo apie Lt ivaizdzio politika?
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posu 2009-01-30 12:31:41
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Visiskas idiotizmas. Labai subjektyvus ir pavirsutiniskas straipsnis.   ATSAKYTI
ne tik 2009-01-30 11:17:40
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apie pabo latino gerai; apie Uzupio respublika tiesiog TOBULAI!   ATSAKYTI
balso zurnalistai 2009-01-30 10:52:33
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elementarus profesionalumas perspausdinant straipsni reikalauja bent jau "britų žurnalisto" pavarde pamineti. O tai tikriausiai tam zurnalistui tiktu kaip dar vienas provencialumo argumentas...

Daug bendrauju su uzsienieciais ir esu girdejes visiskai kitokiu nuomoniu apie vilniu. Kyla toks ispudis, kad noreta specialiai vilniu sumenkinti - kalbant tiek daug apie zydu meninkus(ir zinant ju "problemas") man kyla itarimas, kad cia kazkaip susije. Nedaug reikia laiko sugaisti internete, kad atrastum ir Urmanaviciute, Larina, Nekrosiu ir pan.
Na, o meno zinojimu autorius irgi nepasizymi, jei apie net Pirosmani nera girdejes.    ATSAKYTI
Išmokit 2009-01-30 09:55:03
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Vilnius - nėra Rytų Europa.   ATSAKYTI
carlos 2009-01-30 09:10:30
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susirado fyfiskiausia vilniaus veita pabo altino ir apie sokius pradejo aiskint, ko tais kiek as engerlunde buvau, kazkokiu ten afigenu sokeju diskotekose irgi nepastebejau   ATSAKYTI
ff 2009-01-30 08:57:45
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Neblogas tekstas, gaila, kad nepastebejo, kokie provinciskai arogantiski yra vilnieciai.   ATSAKYTI
sima 2009-01-30 08:07:11
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Reto durnumo tekstas (Heifetzas, beje, smuikininkas); gerai tik apie Pabo Latino, pazvengiau:)    ATSAKYTI
dar 2 komentarai 2009-01-30 07:02:38
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I am just glad that intelligent people, who read this newspaper do not buy this huge piece of nonsense. Just that you do not know any famous lithuanian artists, does not mean they do not exist. I guess that is what the event "Cultural capital" is all about, isn't it? Yes, it is not as grand as London or Paris is, but that just makes it charming. If you are writing in this newspaper, at least take some time and make some research before you go to another country, because this article simply demonstrates the lack of education. And I am sorry if cold weather and snow is not a representative of European culture.

Oh, and about the Jews, if you actually have the guts to point that out, do a research on the number of Lithuanian people who were shot for hiding Jews in their closets. A journalist in a well-respected newspaper should not write about something he has no idea about.   ATSAKYTI
dar independent komentaras 2009-01-30 07:01:56
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Is this article really a representation of The Indepedent? Is this organisation no longer employing talented, structured, dynamic, open-minded witty individuals capable of a travel story that might entice and enlighten their readers?
Obviously not having

a) read this buffoon's article and
b) having visited Vilnius on 7 occasions. And I might add, it's fantastically beautiful lake-land outer-reaches. There are over 4,000 lakes in Lithuania.

Perhaps readers of The Independent do not associate cultural distinction with which 'famous' person was born there or how people dance in a disco. Sankha Guha has been reading Hello for too long perhaps? Most people do not care about so called 'famous' people, they have their own 'famous' family, friends and children. At my school, the type to bask in celebrity goings-ons would always be the teacher's pet, the brown-noser - I think 99% of people will understand me on this point.

Back to Vilnius: -
Perhaps most people would (as I would explain were I not a complete dork) enjoy the utter ambiance of walking through crisply-laden snow covered cobbled alleyways, with no fear of danger/muggings etc, venturing upon wonderful, friendly bars and cafe's where academics, musicians and poets are found joyfully talking and singing and having a great time. Nearly everyone speaks English and strangers are befriended within seconds.

Museums are aplenty in Vilnius, as are parks, church's undergoing renovation, tranquil corners to sit and have a read or a snog, the local beer (Svyturys) which won the World Beer Championship, and as for hiring a car and driving 40 minutes to Trakai! Mind blowing scenery.

If my opinion counts then do not believe a word this amateur dullard has written about Vilnius, he is totally and utterly mistaken.
Vilnius deserves this accolade of European City of Culture and they will absolutely, completely and thoroughly shine with competence and pride. Visit this place without expecting to see famous people and proper London nightclub dancing and you'll fall under its spell.

If you want what Sankha enjoys then just stand outside some West End nightclub with your camera! Great work lad!! Phew!

I sveikata (cheers) Vilnius   ATSAKYTI
"ekspertams" 2009-01-30 07:01:24
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tiems silpnaprociams, kurie toliau kenkia savo krastui ir kulturos sostinei, specialiai kopijuoju britu komentarus po situoju straipsniu. Imetu nevertes - tikiuos, kad "ekspertai" ne tik rusiskai, bet ir siek tiek angliskai dar moka:

So you stayed in the Shakespeare Hotel on Bernardinu Street, and you were wondering if any Lithuanian literary geniuses existed, because they were not named in the hotel. Well, just down Bernardinu Street, not even 100 meters from your hotel is the Mickiewicz Museum. Adam Mickiewicz wrote in Polish, but he was born in this part of the world and he lived several years in Vilnius as a young man, when Vilnius was under Tsarist rule. His most famous poem by far begins with the word, "Lithuania." You obviously didn't open your eyes too much if you didn't notice this museum (which is in all the tourist guide books) right on the same street.

You also need to understand that written Lithuanian is a very recent concept, thus the lack of great numbers of poets and authors. Only in the 19th century was any organized written Lithuanian language established. Even into the early 20th century, Lithuanian was still considered a "peasant" language by the ruling Poles and Russians, and as a result its development was neglected.

It's obvious that you needed to do a bit of research on Vilnius and Lithuania before your trip. Looks like sloppy journalism on your part, more than any inadequacy of Vilnius. Obviously Vilnius does not have the cultural attractions of London or Paris or Vienna, but it has a rich and difficult history that does not fail to interest those interested in learning something new.

And BTW, while I haven't been in a London disco for probably 18 years, I can't remember anyone possessing any particular dancing skills back then either. But I do remember how hammered (drunk) everyone was after a while, and how bad the food was. (This club was "Stringfellows" BTW) I can't recall the situation in the London club possessing any more aplomb than what you described in the Vilnius club.

You need to do some reading on Vilnius and Lithuania, as well as on Poland as Vilnius was more of a Polish city for a couple of centuries, and you also need to go in the summer, when the days are warm and long, and a lush green takes its place alongside the baroque.   ATSAKYTI
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